Radiant Heat Installation in Historic Firehouse Renovation with Anthony Carrino
In September of 2019, my partner Morgan Muir and I had the privilege of working with former HGTV celebrity Anthony Carrino (Kitchen Cousins, with his real-life cousin) to do a special radiant heat installation deep dive for Season One of their new show on The Build TV. Anthony’s a fun, knowledgeable production professional—not only as a great construction interviewer, but with expertise in every aspect of filming. He was renovating an old fire station, “The Firehouse” in Jersey City, NJ, to convert to his personal residence. We did two videos with Anthony, each of which I think are incredibly informative about our Ecowarm® RadiantBoard™. You’ll find the links further down in this blog.
Visiting the Historic Firehouse Project
Here we are: (L-R) Morgan, me and Anthony in 2019 at The Hook and Ladder Firehouse #3, built in 1896 in Jersey City, New Jersey. This station served the surrounding neighborhood in Jersey City Heights and remained in service until 2005. In 2015 it was placed on the National Historic Registry. (Wikipedia)
Hook and Ladder #3 in Jersey City, remodel and photo by Anthony Carrino.
The Firehouse renovation was under construction when we first visited to observe and discuss the radiant heat installation of our product, Ecowarm® RadiantBoard™. Later, we filmed. Since then, Anthony has married, now has a daughter, and has moved into the Firehouse full time as the family’s new residence. His dog, seen later in a thermal image, also happily resides here. He was happy with the product, this is what he said.
The product you guys make is incredible. I absolutely loved the install process. What you provide is literally a “paint by number”. This is a level of efficiency that is un-paralled. Not having hot and cold spots when you’re stepping on and off the tubes underneath the floor, having the conductivity spread out across the aluminum, small boards that are easy to carry on a construction site, the ability to cut the boards with a table saw, and having everything pre-drilled — it’s just incredible. Everything ran without a hitch. If you’re in the market for radiant heat, I highly recommend looking into Ecowarm RadiantBoard. Maybe the best part is that they are super nice to work with!
Time-Lapse Video and Camera Setup
Click on the above image to view the 8 minute Radiant Heat Installation Video with narration, some overhead fast motion camera sequence of installation or use this link.
Before we arrived, Anthony had ingeniously strung overhead wires for a motorized trolley camera he remotely controlled to move it about, capturing footage of the radiant heat installation.
Screenshots from video by Anthony Carrino
Installation Process and Techniques
During this radiant heat installation, his crew laid out all the boards according to our layout drawings (a design service we offer all customers), using short pieces of PEX to align each board with the next board, as we recommend. Once the layout was set, the crew picked up each board, applied construction adhesive to the bottom of each board, re-placed them, and screwed them down. Another method of attachment is to use a 3/8” wide sheathing staple and place 2 staple at the specified locations on the boards in opposing directions (forming an X in cross section).
Anthony only half-jokingly complained that the tubing went in so fast, it was hard to make the camera keep up with it. This video shows it all coming together in fast motion, while quickly discussing the radiant heat installation of Ecowarm® RadiantBoard™ in the Firehouse Project. Many people have commented how useful it was in their decision to use our product. The boards for radiant floor heating and radiant tubing were installed (and videoed) while we were there. This area, above, would become the kitchen. Finished kitchen, below.
Photo by Anthony Carrino
More Photos from the Project: Radiant Heat Installation
Here are some other shots from the project.
Screenshot Anthony and his dog in a thermal image taken after cabinets were installed, showing the effectiveness of the old Fire House’s new radiant heat.
Anthony’s finished living room photo by Anthony Carrino
Office photo by Anthony Carrino
Dining Area photo by Anthony Carrino
Screenshot Deep Dive Intro
Deep Dive Interview on Radiant Heating
Anthony also did a separate long interview with Morgan and me as part of what he called the Deep Dive series on The Build TV. This video goes into more detail about why our Ecowarm® RadiantBoard™ works so well, and what we were thinking about and taking into consideration as we developed it.
Anthony: “You can check out my Deep Dive interview with them, below, and you can just see how passionate they are about what they do…even after 30+ years each, in the business.”
The video, approximately 36 minutes, is a quick course in who we are, and how and why to use our radiant board product. It covers the following and more:
- Intro to Warm Brothers partners Morgan and Hoyt, and their combined 70 years in the industry
- Why the aluminum is on top (for better heat transfer)
- Light weight and size make it easy to carry upstairs
- Aluminum is 1200-1500 times more conductive than plywood
- Radiant comfort and Mean Radiant Temperature explained
- Cats and a dog moving in together in an outdoor radiant heated doghouse
- Loops and zones
- PEX pipe—not Pex-Al-Pex—and why
- Cutting, screwing or stapling, and routing special channels
- Why 2 SKUs can do everything
CAPTURED ON CAMERA: WHAT WE LEARNED
The most important thing we learned is that Anthony is a very sincere and knowledgeable interviewer about construction projects. He does a great deal of homework about products in the marketplace, and for example, in the case of radiant floor heating, was very articulate about what people looking into hot water radiant floor heating want to know. He was very experienced on camera from his former experience on HGTV in “Kitchen Cousins”, a show described as follows (with thanks to ChatGPT): “The HGTV show “Kitchen Cousins” focused on both food and construction. While the show featured kitchen renovations, it also included the cousins’ own culinary expertise and their restaurant ventures. They were known for their construction skills, turning mediocre kitchens into masterpieces, but they also had a passion for food, which led them to open an Asian-American restaurant in Jersey City.”
A Fun and Memorable Filming Experience
All Anthony’s experience helped make our visit and filming incredibly fun.
For lunches, for example, Anthony guided us to a wonderful hole-in-the-wall Italian restaurant nearby, where an older woman who spoke English and Italian, gave us a menu, and soon made it clear that, no, she would not cook us or bring us what we were ordering because, “You have not ordered the best things…so I will not make …trust me.” We did, and it was delicious, but totally different from what we’d initially ordered!
The Mark of a Pro: Planning and Precision
The fact that Anthony was able to predict the exact day our product would be installed, a month earlier, so we could get our plane tickets well in advance, made it clear he was a very experienced contractor who knew how to run a project. His earlier TV experience made him very at ease in showing and explaining what is important to potential customers. He is confident in his thoughts and opinions, since he has deep knowledge of products and construction practices, including radiant heat installation. And he was instantly likable! The result is two EcoWarm® videos which are significantly better than anything we could have scripted ourselves. More recently, Anthony took a break to enjoy marriage and a new child, but he’s back working on new projects to post soon. Search for ThebuildTV, The firehouse Project.
Firepole Engineering: A Behind-the-Scenes Highlight
There are other videos worth watching about the Fire House. I particularly enjoyed the one about the firepole from his office to the garage below. I remember we worked around where it would go in our design layout, but Anthony had to solve several additional very tricky problems. These included getting the right product to provide both child safety and code requirements, as well as repositioning it when he changed the garage doors from old style swing out doors to an overhead door in an angled room, which changed the exact position of the fire pole pass through to clear the new overhead doors in a tight angled space. In that video, in addition to the retractable protection cage with retractable metal firestopping being just a very cool gizmo, you get to see Anthony’s mind almost transparently problem solving in his unique new abode.
If you want to read more about Anthony and the Firehouse check out this article featured on Dwell
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Hoyt Corbett
Partner, Warm Brothers Inc.
Hoyt has been involved with hydronic heating since the early 1990s. He developed and sold a national brand of radiant floor heating that was acquired by Uponor, and served as a first Associate Director of the Radiant Panel Association, the industry’s trade group. Warm Brothers was founded in 200???, with a growing menu of quality radiant board products. They continue to innovate to this day.
Hoyt has done extensive technical writing on radiant floor heating, having written several design and installation manuals for major national hydronic heating vendors. He also created and published the industry’s first annual The Radiant Flooring Guideon choosing flooring materials for use over radiant floor heat.
Call Hoyt at 206-369-1458, 8am to 5pm PST.